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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 24 @ 10:02 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Most overrated players - Pacific Division Most overrated players - Pacific Division
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:05 AM ET
A chance to dump on Sutter and Reaves in the same article? This was Christmas in July for the all-knowing RW.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
“I’m not comparing him to Bergeron, but I’m comparing him to Bergeron.”


Benning
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:09 AM ET
Evander Kane is gonna have a career year now that he's not on a dumpster fire for the first time in his career.
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
Since you completely whiffed on the Calgary Flames, I'll pick for you.

Troy Brouwer is a real jerk and should only be used for faceoffs in OT.
Smells Like Jagr
Calgary Flames
Joined: 10.04.2017

Jul 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
Calgary? Nothing? Brouwer likely?
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
A chance to dump on Sutter and Reaves in the same article? This was Christmas in July for the all-knowing RW.


Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
A chance to dump on Sutter and Reaves in the same article? This was Christmas in July for the all-knowing RW.
- jmatchett383


I'm afraid to look........
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:32 AM ET
Evander Kane is gonna have a career year now that he's not on a dumpster fire for the first time in his career.
- Victoro311



Yeah I dont think he's overrated at all and is a great hockey player but 7 mill might be a bit too much...we shall see. He's never had more than 57 points and only hit the 30 goal mark once. He is a pretty injury prone guy, that would be my main concern. Last year was the most games he ever played in a season at 77. If healthy hes pretty much a guaranteed 20/25 goal guy...and that was on dumpster fires...

For price/production comparative purposes JVR coming off a 36 goal/54 point season and has a 7 mill cap hit next season.

Kessel had 92 points last year for 6.8 mill cap hit.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 24 @ 10:36 AM ET
According to Garth Kane is the most underrated player in the league.

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. He is a good, physical forward and generally speaking a positive asset on many teams but SJ definitely overpaid for him, especially in terms of length of contract.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
ANA: Fowler
AZ: Strome
CGY: Hamonic
EDM: Larsson
LA: Brown
SJ: Kane
VAN: Tanev
VGK: Eakin
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
Nothing for LA or Flames ?
Let me help ...
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
Yeah I dont think he's overrated at all and is a great hockey player but 7 mill might be a bit too much...we shall see. He's never had more than 57 points and only hit the 30 goal mark once. He is a pretty injury prone guy, that would be my main concern. Last year was the most games he ever played in a season at 77. If healthy hes pretty much a guaranteed 20/25 goal guy...and that was on dumpster fires...

For price/production comparative purposes JVR coming off a 36 goal/54 point season and has a 7 mill cap hit next season.

Kessel had 92 points last year for 6.8 mill cap hit.

- MattStrat

This part is garbage. His primary Center the last 5 seasons was Eichel or Schiefele.

He is a good high volume shooter that struggles to stay healthy.

Overrated.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:54 AM ET
No overrated Flames. I like that 👍
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:55 AM ET
Since you completely whiffed on the Calgary Flames, I'll pick for you.

Troy Brouwer is a real jerk and should only be used for faceoffs in OT.

- zipfel

Except the article is “most overrated”. Brouwer isn’t overrated, he’s just bad.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
Truth Kane is a Chris Kunitz type. Nothing less nothing more. He shouldn't be paid $7M at all. I believe he's a $5.5M player at best.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:18 AM ET
ANA: Fowler
AZ: Strome
CGY: Hamonic
EDM: Larsson
LA: Brown
SJ: Kane
VAN: Tanev
VGK: Eakin

- Feds91Stammer


ANA: Lindholm
AZ: Goligoski
CGY: Hamonic
EDM: Draisatl
LA: Muzzin
SJ: Hertl
VAN: Tanev
VGK: Reaves

Some of these guys are very good players, just think they're overrated in general.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Truth Kane is a Chris Kunitz type. Nothing less nothing more. He shouldn't be paid $7M at all. I believe he's a $5.5M player at best.
- Barnaby36

Skinner is probably the closest comparison to Kane in terms of scoring and shot rates.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:22 AM ET
ANA: Lindholm
AZ: Goligoski
CGY: Hamonic
EDM: Draisatl
LA: Muzzin
SJ: Hertl
VAN: Tanev
VGK: Reaves

Some of these guys are very good players, just think they're overrated in general.

- Scabeh

Agreed on these except I think most agree Goligoski is past his prime and Reaves is just bad at hockey.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
This part is garbage. His primary Center the last 5 seasons was Eichel or Schiefele.

He is a good high volume shooter that struggles to stay healthy.

Overrated.

- Feds91Stammer



So they were only playing 2 on 2 hockey?

Pretty much every team he's been on has been a bottom dweller/non playoff team until the Sharks, thats what I mean and Im assuming Vic meant as well. The only year a team he was on (besides last year) made the playoffs was the 2014/2015 Jets and he didnt play a single game due to injury haha.

If he can manage to stay healthy enough for 70+ games this year he will have a career year. Book it.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
I think the only two players on that list you can make the argument for are Kane and Larsson. All of the other players aren't highly thought of and are closer to being underrated because they might not be as terrible as everyone thinks.

No one thinks Reaves, Lucic, Russell and Sutter are better than decent. Hard to be overrated as a decent player.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
ANA: Lindholm
AZ: Goligoski
CGY: Hamonic
EDM: Draisatl
LA: Muzzin
SJ: Hertl
VAN: Tanev
VGK: Reaves

Some of these guys are very good players, just think they're overrated in general.

- Scabeh


I’m interested on the rationale for Hampus - he and Josh to me at least are very formidable pairing ... overrated if anything he’s underrated.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:36 AM ET
So they were only playing 2 on 2 hockey?

Pretty much every team he's been on has been a bottom dweller/non playoff team until the Sharks, thats what I mean and Im assuming Vic meant as well. The only year a team he was on (besides last year) made the playoffs was the 2014/2015 Jets and he didnt play a single game due to injury haha.

If he can manage to stay healthy enough for 70+ games this year he will have a career year. Book it.


I could see it, but that's a lot to commit to a guy who might have a career year. He's making the same as Vlasic. I dunno, I think it was dumb. Should have been able to get him for less with that term, or less term for that money. He hasn't proven very much at all yet.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:41 AM ET
I think the only two players on that list you can make the argument for are Kane and Larsson. All of the other players aren't highly thought of and are closer to being underrated because they might not be as terrible as everyone thinks.

No one thinks Reaves, Lucic, Russell and Sutter are better than decent. Hard to be overrated as a decent player.

- MacPatty

Well a lot of those players aren't even decent. Do you remember Brandon Sutter on this team? He might be my least favorite Penguin of all time. What a (frank)ing chump. People thought Sheary was soft. Sutter was softer and didn't even produce well.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:47 AM ET
Skinner is probably the closest comparison to Kane in terms of scoring and shot rates.
- Feds91Stammer



Ok...but he also plays with a physical edge like Kunitz, or Kunitz used to. The kind that opens up space and creates opportunities for teammates while also wearing the other team down.
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